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		<updated>2022-02-24T22:40:20+00:00</updated>

		<published>2022-02-24T22:40:20+00:00</published>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Good Tickets • Record issues]]></title>

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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>Users report gaps in recordings without providing any actionable evidence that points to an issue.  Before submitting a ticket, confirm you have an issue by reviewing the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=27&amp;t=3009" class="postlink">Record troubleshooting guidelines</a> and try to self-correct.<br><br>If you believe you have an issue, below is the needed evidence.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong"><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">When triggered</span></strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>As discussed in the Record troubleshooting guide, the <strong class="text-strong">When triggered</strong> record setting works as follows:<div style="margin-left:3em"><br>Camera triggers (trigger tab settings) -&gt; Record<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Details</strong><br>Trigger: Camera triggered (motion event in logs).  Easy to confirm whether camera triggered (besides checking the logs).    In the Trigger tab, set <strong class="text-strong">Add to alerts list: = Hi-res JPEG</strong> files.  If the camera triggers, a corresponding alert image is created in your Alerts folder!  Easy way to use BI to tell you what is going on.<div style="margin-left:3em">--&gt; Record: Recording occurs until the trigger ends<br><br></div></div><strong class="text-strong">Camera trigger</strong><br>So if you believe recordings are missing first show the camera triggered.  How?<div style="margin-left:3em"><br>As stated above, in the Trigger tab, set <strong class="text-strong">Add to alerts list: = Hi-res JPEG</strong> files.  If the camera triggers, a corresponding alert image is created in your Alerts folder!  Easy way to use BI to tell you when a camera triggered.<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Pro tip:</strong> If an alert corresponding to the trigger is listed in the Alerts list on the console, you can right click on the Alert -&gt; Open containing folder and BI will find the Alert image for you.  If the trigger is cancelled, you should still be able to find the Cancelled alert in the Cancelled alerts folder.  Therefore, regardless of whether a trigger results in an alert or cancelled alert, the trigger event should always be recorded in the database!<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Record</strong><br>How do you show a recording did not happen?  <div style="margin-left:3em"><br>With a little creativity.  Unselect Combine or Cut video.  Camera settings -&gt; Record tab.<br>This tells BI to create a new recording file every time the camera triggers.  If you have an alert image without a corresponding recording, you have just shown a camera triggered but did not record.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Submitting a ticket</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Latest log file<br>Camera stats: Status button -&gt; Cameras tab -&gt; Export<br>Camera settings<br>Alert image confirming a trigger event<br>Screenshot of Confirmed or Cancelled alert in Alerts list<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2595" class="postimage" alt="record_cancelled alert.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br></div></div></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">When alerted</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">When alerted</strong> record setting works as follows: <div style="margin-left:3em"><br>Camera triggers (trigger tab settings) -&gt; AI (if enabled) -&gt; Alert filters (if any.  set in Alerts tab) -&gt; Record<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Details</strong><br>Trigger: Camera triggered (motion event in logs).  Easy to confirm whether camera triggered (besides checking the logs).    In the Trigger tab, set <strong class="text-strong">Add to alerts list: = Hi-res JPEG</strong> files.  If the camera triggers, a corresponding alert image is created in your Alerts folder!  Easy way to use BI to tell you what is going on.<div style="margin-left:3em">-&gt; AI: If using AI, DeepStack analysis will tell you if an object was found, i.e. confirmed alert.  Fortunately a DeepStack event will also be registered in the logs.<div style="margin-left:3em">-&gt; Alerts tab:  Filters in the AIerts tab can block an alert.  Easy to check.  Do you see the alert in the Alerts list.  If not, then you know the Alerts tab is somehow blocking the Alert!<div style="margin-left:3em">-&gt; Record:  Recording occurs until the trigger ends</div></div></div></div> <br><br><strong class="text-strong">Camera trigger</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">So if you believe alerts are not being recorded, first show the camera triggered as described above.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Alert</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Show the trigger led to an alert.  Easy.  If the corresponding alert is in the Alerts list, then an alert was created.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Record</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Confirm a recording was generated using same settings as above.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Submitting a ticket</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Latest log file<br>Camera stats: Status button -&gt; Cameras tab -&gt; Export<br>Camera settings<br>Alert image confirming a trigger event<br>Screenshot of Confirmed alert in Alerts list<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2594" class="postimage" alt="record_confirmed alert.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br></div></div></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Continuous+ record settings</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em">If Continuous recording is causing issues, you probably have a drive issue.  Best to visit the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2817" class="postlink">Storage troubleshooting link</a>.<br><br>If you have other issues with recordings, best to visit the record gotchas in the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2305" class="postlink">Record tab article</a> first.<br><br><br></div> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation"> <strong class="text-strong">Work in progress</strong><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:40 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2021-12-29T17:47:10+00:00</updated>

		<published>2021-12-29T17:47:10+00:00</published>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Good Tickets • Storage Ticket]]></title>

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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><br><br>This article explains the needed information to troubleshoot Storage issues.  Before submitting a ticket, users should first go through the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2817" class="postlink">Storage article</a> to try and self correct.<br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Customer ticket</strong></span><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Issue</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">What is the issue?  <ul><li>Storage fills up</li><li>New folder fills up resulting in crash</li></ul></div><strong class="text-strong">Server health</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Confirm any and all errors in the logs were addressed and resolved prior to submitting a ticket.<br>Logs from current month.  If logs are less than 10 days, also provide the logs from the previous month.<br>Camera stats.  Status button -&gt; Cameras tab -&gt; Export<br>Storage.  Screenshot of Status button -&gt; Storage tab.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Drives</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><strong class="text-strong">What drives are being used?</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Internal drives.<br>USB / External drives<br>NAS drives<br>RAID drives<br><br></div></div><strong class="text-strong">Clips and archiving</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">What is your current setup in Global settings -&gt; Clips and archiving?<br><br>New -&gt; Stored -&gt; Aux 1 -&gt; etc.<br><br>Screenshots of setup.  Only as much as is needed initially.  For example, if the New folder fills up causing BI to crash, then the New and Storage settings are only needed.<br><br>New folder<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2272" class="postimage" alt="storage ticket_new folder.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>Stored folder<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2273" class="postimage" alt="storage ticket_stored folder.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br></div><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:47 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2021-10-26T18:07:13+00:00</updated>

		<published>2021-10-26T18:07:13+00:00</published>
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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Introduction</span><br><br>Explaining user interface issues effectively is challenging.  <br><br><strong class="text-strong">Video</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>I strongly recommend <a href="viewtopic.php?f=27&amp;t=3051" class="postlink">creating a short video</a> with a narrative of the issue.  <br><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Customer Ticket</span><br><br>If you decide not to create a video below is an example of a clear ticket.<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Steps to reproduce the issue.</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><strong class="text-strong">Went to clips list.</strong><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2031" class="postimage" alt="UI_all clips.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><strong class="text-strong">Double clicked on a clip.  Does not matter which one.</strong><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2032" class="postimage" alt="UI_select clip.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><strong class="text-strong">Used Next/Previous item button to move to an adjacent alert</strong><br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2033" class="postimage" alt="UI_previous button.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><strong class="text-strong">For example with the Previous button, I saw clip list move from Green to Pink</strong><br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2034" class="postimage" alt="UI_select clip2.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Why it's a good ticket</span><br><br>The steps to reproduce plus the screenshots makes it crystal clear what was tried.<br>The above was actually a rebuttal from me for a ticket produced by the user.<br>Below is what the user stated in the ticket.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>First noticed in .14, clip list filters on camera clone as soon as it's played back.<br>Playing through Blue, orange is not filtered:<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2035" class="postimage" alt="UI_customer1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div>As soon as first Orange is played back, blue is filtered out:<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2036" class="postimage" alt="UI_customer2.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div></blockquote>The before / after screen shots were a little helpful, but Steps to reproduce would have made it crystal clear.<br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Final resolution</span><br><br>Bug fix was identified based on ticket.  My feedback is very similar to my feedback on the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=21&amp;t=2758" class="postlink">Motion &amp; DeepStack article</a>.  Providing screenshots with your description makes understanding what is happening much easier.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:07 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2021-10-19T23:40:08+00:00</updated>

		<published>2021-10-19T23:40:08+00:00</published>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Good Tickets • Smart Alerts - Motion &amp; DeepStack]]></title>

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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em">In order to really help provide guidance on smarter alerts, a fair level of understanding and detail needs to be provided in the ticket.  <br><br><strong class="text-strong">Summary</strong><br>While I may have preferred if the user provided the camera settings (camera settings -&gt; general tab -&gt; export), he did a really good job providing the detail needed to understand what he was trying to do in a concise manner.  The combination of screenshots of relevant camera settings with his description made understanding clear.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong"><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Customer ticket</span></strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>This is my second time trying to track down this issue. As a quick rehash of the issue:<br><br>I have cameras with multiple zones, A and B. A is a larger zone and contains everything where I want to detect motion. B is a smaller zone that overlaps on A. I want to analyze all motion with Deepstack and trigger an alert on all confirmed objects (person,car,truck,bus,motorcycle,bicycle) in zone A, but I want alert actions to only occur on zone B when a person is confirmed by Deepstack. <br><br>Under trigger, artificial intelligence.. I have all zones selected. That allows Deepstack to analyze all motion detections.<br><br>Under Alerts, Trigger sources and zones: I have all zones selected with "Any" in the drop-down. This should allow both A and B to create alerts when DS detects an object.<br><br>Under Alerts -&gt; Actions -&gt; On Alert: Each action has zones/sources set to "=AB" and the required objects set to 'person:50'. This should only fire the alert actions when the motion is detected in both zones A and B, correct?<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1988" class="postimage" alt="smart alerts img1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>A few minutes ago this alert caused my alert action to fire:<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1989" class="postimage" alt="smart alerts img2.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>BI correctly identified this alert as motion A, but it fired the alert actions anyway. <br><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.552 PM FrontCam             MOTION_A3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.670 PM Rear_PTZ             MOTION_A3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.851 PM Front_Cam_247       GROUP0 10/18/2021 1:52:38.852 PM Driveway             DeepStack: person:60% [2032,325 2085,468] 480ms0 10/18/2021 1:52:42.620 PM FrontCam             DeepStack: person:59% [872,295 932,436] 332ms10 10/18/2021 1:52:42.910 PM Server               ::: Connected0 10/18/2021 1:52:43.035 PM FrontCam             Push: OK to BIApp0 10/18/2021 1:52:45.451 PM FrontCam             SMS: xxx@.google.com with 1 attachment/s</code></pre></div>This has happened multiple times today. I am running on 5.5.1.12 (10/17/2021).<br><br>It's windy today. Is it possible that the alerts are happening because there are shadows moving in zone B even though the detected object is not in zone B?<br><br>I'm going to try to switch my alert actions from "=" to "All" with zones A and B checked. It seems like those should produce the same results.<br><br><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Comments / Feedback</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><blockquote class="uncited"><div>This is my second time trying to track down this issue. As a quick rehash of the issue:<br><br>I have cameras with multiple zones, A and B. A is a larger zone and contains everything where I want to detect motion. B is a smaller zone that overlaps on A.  </div></blockquote><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> <br><strong class="text-strong">Motion zones</strong><br>While I would have preferred the camera settings (camera settings -&gt; general tab -&gt; export) in order to see the actual zones, the zones description will suffice since the concept of a larger zone (A) which contains the field of view of the camera and a smaller zone (B) that overlaps on A is a widely understood concept.  Easy to grasp.<br><br></div><blockquote class="uncited"><div>I want to analyze all motion with Deepstack and trigger an alert on all confirmed objects (person,car,truck,bus,motorcycle,bicycle) in zone A, but I want alert actions to only occur on zone B when a person is confirmed by Deepstack. </div></blockquote><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> <br><strong class="text-strong">Objective</strong><br>Objective is clearly identified.<br>The use case is this camera faces the street and zone A detects cars and people passing by. Zone B is the approach to my front door and the alert actions push alerts to mobile devices when a person approaches the door.  The user clearly states what he is trying to do.<br><br></div><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Under trigger, artificial intelligence.. I have all zones selected. That allows Deepstack to analyze all motion detections.<br><br>Under Alerts, Trigger sources and zones: I have all zones selected with "Any" in the drop-down. This should allow both A and B to create alerts when DS detects an object.<br><br>Under Alerts -&gt; Actions -&gt; On Alert: Each action has zones/sources set to "=AB" and the required objects set to 'person:50'. This should only fire the alert actions when the motion is detected in both zones A and B, correct?<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1988" class="postimage" alt="smart alerts img1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br></div></blockquote><div style="margin-left:3em">  <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea">  <br><strong class="text-strong">Supporting evidence</strong><br><br>The user describes his settings and his reasoning for the settings.  Also asks to confirm his understanding.  He also provides just the right screenshots to easily understand his setup.  Again, I would have preferred to have his camera settings just to confirm my understanding.<br><br></div><blockquote class="uncited"><div>A few minutes ago this alert caused my alert action to fire:<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1989" class="postimage" alt="smart alerts img2.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>BI correctly identified this alert as motion A, but it fired the alert actions anyway. <br><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.552 PM FrontCam             MOTION_A3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.670 PM Rear_PTZ             MOTION_A3 10/18/2021 1:52:38.851 PM Front_Cam_247       GROUP0 10/18/2021 1:52:38.852 PM Driveway             DeepStack: person:60% [2032,325 2085,468] 480ms0 10/18/2021 1:52:42.620 PM FrontCam             DeepStack: person:59% [872,295 932,436] 332ms10 10/18/2021 1:52:42.910 PM Server               ::: Connected0 10/18/2021 1:52:43.035 PM FrontCam             Push: OK to BIApp0 10/18/2021 1:52:45.451 PM FrontCam             SMS: xxx@.google.com with 1 attachment/s</code></pre></div>This has happened multiple times today. I am running on 5.5.1.12 (10/17/2021).<br><br>It's windy today. Is it possible that the alerts are happening because there are shadows moving in zone B even though the detected object is not in zone B?<br><br>I'm going to try to switch my alert actions from "=" to "All" with zones A and B checked. It seems like those should produce the same results.</div></blockquote><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> <br><strong class="text-strong">Current Issue</strong><br><br>Based on his understanding and his settings he then explains the issue.<br><div style="margin-left:3em">A few minutes ago this alert caused my alert action to fire...</div><strong class="text-strong">The Alert screenshot and Logs clearly and concisely explained the issue with evidence.</strong>  He closes with additional thoughts and possible tests.<br><br><br></div></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Support Response</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation"> Below is further correspondence regarding the ticket and final resolution if you are curious.  (optional read)<br><br>Interesting.  Good analysis.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>It's windy today. Is it possible that the alerts are happening because there are shadows moving in zone B even though the detected object is not in zone B?</div></blockquote>I think you are right.  No where do you specify the object from A moved to B or vice versa (A-B).  So BI (I think) is alerting because there is Motion in A and B and a person was detected somewhere (A or B, in this case A). <br><br>What are the requirements?<ul><li>You want to create alerts in the clip list when person/vehicles are in A</li><li>However, you only want alerts when person/vehicle are in B</li></ul>So break it down by requirement.<br>The first requirement is simple.  Your current settings are fine, i.e. create a Zone A and turn on DeepStack.<br><br>The second part is a little tricky (and brittle).  You need to approximate how much time would be needed for a person to walk to Zone B or park the car and walk to Zone B.  Say it should happen in 10s.<br><br>In the alert action map, you need to create a wait action = 10s.<br>Then create the alert action (push,etc).  The logic for the Push action would be B only.<br>I think this would prevent the person on the street from alerting.<br><br>Alternatively, you can clone the camera.<br>Use the camera for requirement 1, i.e. create no alerts.<br>For the clone, create the alert for people in Zone B.<br><br>Keep me posted what works.<br><br>FYI, I go through a similar example in the Trigger webinar at 42:13.<br>See <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2402" class="postlink">Case Study: Creating Triggers -&gt; Alerts</a> section.<br><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Final Resolution</strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em">After consulting with engineering, we realized the current functionality cannot support his use case.<br><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>The user 's Push Notification (from email):<div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2003" class="postimage" alt="DeepStack Alert_push.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>After more back and forth, more details about the Push notification.<div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2004" class="postimage" alt="DeepStack Alert_push settings.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div>The user understood the Push settings to mean only fire an alert if there is motion in A and B AND a person is identified in A and B.<br>Currently, DeepStack object detection is independent of motion zones.<br>What that means for this case is if there is Motion in A and B, then the alert logic passes the motion test.<br>Then in the frame that is sent to DeepStack is there a person identified in the image?<br><strong class="text-strong">The key understanding here is the object does NOT have to be in A and B</strong>.<br>The object only needs to be in the image.<br>Thus BI sent the alert because there was motion in A and B and a person was identified in the frame.<br><br>However, engineering is working to associate the object with the Zone.<br>So if the alert map stated B and person, the Alert would be sent correctly when a person was found in Zone B.<br>(Notice how sharing a screenshot of the settings associated to my description provides instant clarity.  Exactly what user did as well)<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2005" class="postimage" alt="DeepStack Alert_push settings fix.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div></div><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:40 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2021-10-14T15:06:53+00:00</updated>

		<published>2021-10-14T15:06:53+00:00</published>
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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><br><br>There are many reasons why BI can crash.  Support often requests:<ul><li>Verify all Security Software Exemptions.  See <a href="viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2080" class="postlink">Windows Tuning article</a> for details.</li><li>Monitor RAM and CPU usage to verify these are stable and not leading to the issue.<br>If RAM is continuing to grow, it is often due to incorrect Security Software exclusions.<br>If CPU utilization is &gt;65%, re-add your cameras using best practices.<br>The biggest CPU savings are dual streams on all cameras / Direct to disc recording / hardware acceleration (e.g. Intel QuickSync).<br>The <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2426" class="postlink">Connect cameras correctly</a> section in the Checklist walks through connecting cameras correctly.</li><li>Attempt to isolate any source of instability by temporarily disabling specific cameras.</li></ul>This article is about <strong class="text-strong">how do you isolate any source of instability by temporarily disabling specific cameras</strong>.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Isolate the Issue</strong></span><br><br>Recently, an update caused instability to my machine.  The symptom was switching Profiles caused BI to crash.<br>This is often where a user stops with ticket information.<br><br>Below is the information I provided which led to resolution.<br>Engineering started working on the issue at 1:50 PM.<br>Engineering resolved the issue at 2:50 PM.<br><br>With the right information, it is easy to resolve software issues that result in a crash.<ul><li>Can you provide steps to reproduce the issue?</li><li>Can you isolate the issue to a particular camera?</li></ul><blockquote class="uncited"><div>I started with a video showing the steps to reproduce the issue.  Sometimes, there are enough clues in the video for engineering to have ideas.<br>This time they needed more information.</div></blockquote><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Engineering response:<br><br>Hello Sam ... same as for a customer:<br><br>See troubleshooting in help for instructions on locating/reporting error details.<br>Does this happen if not running as a service?<br>Does it happen if camera X is enabled?</div></blockquote>My responses as I investigated to isolate the issue.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Crashes as a service.  Still crashes when not running as a service.<br><br>Faulting application name: BlueIris.exe, version: 5.5.1.8, time stamp: 0x61659f5b<br>Faulting module name: mfc140u.dll, version: 14.26.28720.3, time stamp: 0x5e74b0d1<br>Exception code: 0xc0000005<br>Fault offset: 0x00000000002c34b0<br>Faulting process id: 0x1670<br>Faulting application start time: 0x01d7bf92f0a6f7e3<br>Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Blue Iris 5\BlueIris.exe<br>Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\mfc140u.dll<br>Report Id: 744bd896-188f-4447-ab99-3ba5384b2adf<br>Faulting package full name:<br>Faulting package-relative application ID: <br><br>Testing cameras.  Standby.<br></div></blockquote>Provided visual to engineering so EASY to understand.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>With one camera.  Switching from Profile 0 -&gt; 2<br>I can now reproduce the issue with just one camera.<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1967" class="postimage" alt="isolate_img1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>Faulting application name: BlueIris.exe, version: 5.5.1.8, time stamp: 0x61659f5b<br>Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.19041.1202, time stamp: 0x4f115fac<br>Exception code: 0xc0000374<br>Fault offset: 0x00000000000ff199<br>Faulting process id: 0x1494<br>Faulting application start time: 0x01d7bf935d7d72f7<br>Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Blue Iris 5\BlueIris.exe<br>Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll<br>Report Id: 253e4276-0f40-4ed5-888d-3d902572255f<br>Faulting package full name:<br>Faulting package-relative application ID:</div></blockquote>More test cases to isolate the issue: Is the Profile switch the problem or something else?<br>Is the Profile switch just a red herring for something else?<br>Confirmed the active cameras + profile change is causing the issue.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Disabling camera.<br>Switching profiles.<br>Enabling camera.<br>Software runs.</div></blockquote>Turn stuff off on the one camera.  Are the camera settings for this one camera causing the issue?<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Camera settings: H/W Accel = Intel.<br>H/W Accel on/off has no impact.<br>Still crashes on profile switch.</div></blockquote>Visuals always help understanding.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Suspicious of clones.  Enabled non-cloned camera.<br>No issues switching profiles so far.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1968" class="postimage" alt="isolate_img2.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div></blockquote>Another visual for better understanding.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Two non-cloned cameras.<br>No issues switching profiles.<br>Let me know when you can reproduce the error.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1969" class="postimage" alt="isolate_img3.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div></div></blockquote>Reconfirmed my suspicion that clones are causing the crash.<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Enabled bottom left camera (also a clone).<br>Switch from Profile 2 -&gt; 0 caused a crash.<br><br>Faulting application name: BlueIris.exe, version: 5.5.1.8, time stamp: 0x61659f5b<br>Faulting module name: mfc140u.dll, version: 14.26.28720.3, time stamp: 0x5e74b0d1<br>Exception code: 0xc0000005<br>Fault offset: 0x00000000002c34b0<br>Faulting process id: 0xd48<br>Faulting application start time: 0x01d7bf94c030fef0<br>Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Blue Iris 5\BlueIris.exe<br>Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\mfc140u.dll<br>Report Id: 24b89ecf-c541-418f-be7f-fe3232d7f47c<br>Faulting package full name:<br>Faulting package-relative application ID:<br><br>In Event Viewer Crash Event always followed by:<br><br>Fault bucket 1677643144606994550, type 4<br>Event Name: APPCRASH<br>Response: Not available<br>Cab Id: 0<br><br>Problem signature:<br>P1: BlueIris.exe<br>P2: 5.5.1.8<br>P3: 61659f5b<br>P4: mfc140u.dll<br>P5: 14.26.28720.3<br>P6: 5e74b0d1<br>P7: c0000005<br>P8: 00000000002c34b0<br>P9:<br>P10:<br><br>Attached files:<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERC6EA.tmp.mdmp<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERC891.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERC8A2.tmp.xml<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERC8B0.tmp.csv<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERC8D0.tmp.txt<br><br>These files may be available here:<br>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_BlueIris.exe_c687f6ab5d0f4b5206f43e9c6e677773abae78_9f5cc1ae_23a5bd04-3fd0-497a-a405-30d5b2f15853</div></blockquote><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Engineering Addresses Issue</strong></span><br><br>Engineering requested BI Settings.<br><br>Some more feedback I shared:<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>FYI, under profile 2, the clone masters become inactive.  That could be the key.<br>The clones however become active.</div></blockquote>An hour later, Engineering found the issue.<br><br>I asked engineering for details on how they resolved the issue:<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Good work.  Thanks!<br><br>I'm assuming you had to replicate the crash before resolving the issue.  <br>What helped you get to the root cause.<br>Did any of my symptoms help?<br>Did you simply import my registry, assign valid IP addresses to my cameras and reproduce the crash?<br><br>I want to document this example so users know what it takes to resolve crashes.</div></blockquote>Engineering response:<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>I just started eliminating things.  <br><br>Deleted all of the groups. <br>Disabled other cameras.  <br>It was the clone. <br>Disabled deepstack on it then no crash</div></blockquote><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Conclusion</strong></span><br><br>I was able to Isolate the issue by identifying a single camera (clone) with steps to reproduce the crash.<br>From there, Engineering turned off settings on the camera to identify the root cause.<br><br>The core issue was incorrectly handling static object detection when camera streams turn off.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:06 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2021-10-04T19:54:57+00:00</updated>

		<published>2021-10-04T19:54:57+00:00</published>
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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><br><br>Reporting a problem or restating you still have a problem will not lead to resolution.  This article is an example of a good ticket that led to a resolution.  A resolution could be a bug fix or a settings change that resolves the issue.  In this example, BI engineering had to fix the connector to the camera.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Customer ticket</strong></span><br><br>I recently am noticing realtime slippage in what i see in blue iris and what i am seeing when viewing the camera directly from a browser. This time delay can be 10+ minutes. Restarting blue iris fixes the issues temporarily but they come back. I am using fast SSD storage for new recordings, and the database. I am recording direct to disk, I am not  using any sort of overlay in blue iris or rendering the video as it comes in. The server it is running on is a Dell PowerEdge R620 with 12 logical processors with hyper threading so 24 cores total with 32GB of ram. There is no video card in this server. There does not appear to be any sort of resource contention issue. I have the server stats below and have taken a crystal disk mark test with Blue Iris turned off on the disk that is storing the Blue Iris Database and where "new" recordings are kept. I have also attached a copy of my config. I am seeing this time slippage on &lt;vendor name&gt; 4k cameras. I have screenshots of their configs for both blue iris and for the camera itself attached below as well. <br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1912" class="postimage" alt="camera issues_camera delay.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1913" class="postimage" alt="camera issues_encoding.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1915" class="postimage" alt="camera issues_ip config.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>Opening 192.168.254.68 port 80...HTTP Get / request...OKONVIF GetSystemDateAndTime2021-12-23T02:26:26.000ZRequesting device information...Manufacturer: BoschModel: AUTODOME IP starlight 7000 HDFirmwareVersion: 7.10.0076GetCapabilities...Querying servicesHas Search services: /onvif/search_serviceHas Imaging services: /onvif/imaging_serviceHas media services: /onvif/media_serviceHas RTP_RTSP_TCP, requesting profilesprofile token 0profile name H26x_L1S1profile source is 1profile source config is 1profile token 1profile name H26x_L1S2profile source is 1profile source config is 1profile token 2profile name JPEG_L1S3profile source is 1profile source config is 1requesting URI for profile 0RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?p=0&amp;h26x=4&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1requesting URI for profile 1RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?p=1&amp;inst=2&amp;h26x=4&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1requesting URI for profile 2RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?h26x=0&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1Has Event services: /onvif/event_serviceRelayOutputs: 4RelayOutput: Output_1/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_2/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_3/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_4_(Relay)/Bistable/openInputConnectors: 7Has Device IO services: /onvif/DeviceIO_serviceAudioOutputs: 1Has PTZ service: /onvif/ptz_servicePreset: 1=ForwardPreset: 2=Left 90 DegreePreset: 3=Right 90Done</code></pre></div><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1914" class="postimage" alt="camera issues_video tab.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2251" class="postimage" alt="video tab.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Comments/Feedback</strong></span><br><br> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> <strong class="text-strong">Clear and concise explanation of issue</strong><br>The issue is with camera connectivity, so really the bold highlights is the essential information.  The user is clearly an IT professional based on the tools referenced.  The information is informative but definitely not necessary.<br><br><div style="margin-left:3em"><strong class="text-strong">I recently am noticing real-time slippage in what i see in blue iris and what i am seeing when viewing the camera directly from a browser. This time delay can be 10+ minutes. Restarting blue iris fixes the issues temporarily but they come back.</strong> I am using fast SSD storage for new recordings, and the database. I am recording direct to disk, I am not  using any sort of overlay in blue iris or rendering the video as it comes in. The server it is running on is a Dell PowerEdge R620 with 12 logical processors with hyper threading so 24 cores total with 32GB of ram. There is no video card in this server. There does not appear to be any sort of resource contention issue. I have the server stats below and have taken a crystal disk mark test with Blue Iris turned off on the disk that is storing the Blue Iris Database and where "new" recordings are kept. I have also attached a copy of my config. I am seeing this time slippage on &lt;vendor name&gt; 4k cameras. I have screenshots of their configs for both blue iris and for the camera itself attached below as well. <br><br></div> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> <strong class="text-strong">Supporting evidence</strong><br><strong class="text-strong">The supporting evidence is often the missing piece.</strong>  Why is it important?<div style="margin-left:3em"><br>1.  Supporting evidence provides clarity to the issue, making it much easier to understand what you are trying to do.  <br>2.  It establishes credibility that we know you know what you are doing.  We take comments like "Have been a BI user for many years..." with a grain of salt.  Show us vs telling us you know what you are doing.<br>3.  It let's us jump into troubleshooting immediately.  There is no back and forth on please share a screenshot of &lt;fill in the blank&gt; or send your camera settings etc.<br><br>Additional comments on supporting evidence for this ticket:<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Screenshot/Video</strong><br>Visual of delay by overlaying stream from Camera UI against UI3.  Clever, but not necessary.  <a href="viewtopic.php?f=27&amp;t=3051" class="postlink">Simple screenshots of console or a video</a> would have sufficed.<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Connecting cameras - best practices</strong><br>If you notice in the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=3037" class="postlink">Connecting cameras article</a>, there are three main steps to connecting cameras:<ul><li>Camera setup:  Setting the camera correctly to work well with BI.</li><li>Camera connector:  The actual connector settings to a camera.</li><li>Video tab:  Server settings that can affect the video.</li></ul>This user shared exactly those settings in supporting evidence to help us confirm his setup.<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Camera setup</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> By providing a screenshot of the encoding settings, there is complete clarity on the Camera setup for review by Support.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Camera connector (IP Config Dialog)</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> IP Config settings:  Easiest way to know the connector settings is by sharing a screenshot.  Helps confirm whether the connector settings are correct or can be improved.<br><br>The output of the Find/Inspect dialog from ONVIF is also of benefit.  <br><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>Opening 192.168.254.68 port 80...HTTP Get / request...OKONVIF GetSystemDateAndTime2021-12-23T02:26:26.000ZRequesting device information...Manufacturer: BoschModel: AUTODOME IP starlight 7000 HDFirmwareVersion: 7.10.0076GetCapabilities...Querying servicesHas Search services: /onvif/search_serviceHas Imaging services: /onvif/imaging_serviceHas media services: /onvif/media_serviceHas RTP_RTSP_TCP, requesting profilesprofile token 0profile name H26x_L1S1profile source is 1profile source config is 1profile token 1profile name H26x_L1S2profile source is 1profile source config is 1profile token 2profile name JPEG_L1S3profile source is 1profile source config is 1requesting URI for profile 0RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?p=0&amp;h26x=4&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1requesting URI for profile 1RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?p=1&amp;inst=2&amp;h26x=4&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1requesting URI for profile 2RTSP URI: /rtsp_tunnel?h26x=0&amp;aon=1&amp;aud=1Has Event services: /onvif/event_serviceRelayOutputs: 4RelayOutput: Output_1/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_2/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_3/Bistable/openRelayOutput: Output_4_(Relay)/Bistable/openInputConnectors: 7Has Device IO services: /onvif/DeviceIO_serviceAudioOutputs: 1Has PTZ service: /onvif/ptz_servicePreset: 1=ForwardPreset: 2=Left 90 DegreePreset: 3=Right 90Done</code></pre></div></div><strong class="text-strong">Video tab</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> Video tab clearly explains video settings.<br></div></div><strong class="text-strong">Camera stats</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">The final step of the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=3037" class="postlink">Connecting cameras - best practices article</a> is to check the camera stats.  Is the video working well with BI.  Easiest way to know how the camera is performing is via the camera stats (General tab).  <br><br> <img class="smilies" src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":idea:" title="Idea"> Camera stats.  Camera stats are the easiest way to know whether the camera is setup correctly.  From above I know the mainstream is connected but the sub stream is not.  The FPS and key frame ratio are both very low.  Something is NOT right with the camera encoder settings or the camera stream.<br><br><br></div></div></div><strong class="text-strong">Summary</strong><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>From the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2426" class="postlink">Checklist</a>, there are 3 distinct steps to connecting a camera.<ul><li>Camera settings</li><li>Connector settings</li><li>Video tab (BI server settings)</li></ul>The user provided the Camera settings, Connector settings, the Video tab and the BI camera stats up front.  This allowed support to dive into next steps and resolution immediately.  Instead of screenshots of IP Config dialog and Video  tab, it is easier if users just send the camera settings.  Camera settings -&gt; General tab -&gt; Export<br><br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Final Resolution</strong><br><br>We ran further tests such as connecting the camera to VLC.<br>The final resolution turned out to be engineering had to get involved to fix the BI connector.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Submitting a ticket / Next steps</strong></span><br><br>Before opening a ticket go through the self-help content.  The <strong class="text-strong">Connecting cameras</strong> article of the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2426" class="postlink">Checklist</a> walks through connecting cameras.  Good guide for connecting cameras the first time and double-checking your settings.<br><br>Review the troubleshooting guides in the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=26&amp;t=2982#Cameras" class="postlink">Cameras section</a> of the Troubleshooting toolkit to self-correct.<br><br>If you need support, the following information is needed:<div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Support info</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">It's easy to share support info.  It's important as well in order to understand your computer stats and the version of the software you are running.  <br>Before submitting a new ticket, click the Help button (? button).<br>Copy Email support info to copy critical system info to the clipboard.  <br>Then paste the clipboard into the top of your support email.  Below is a snippet from my "Email support" button.<br><br>Email to: <a href="mailto:support@blueirissoftware.com">support@blueirissoftware.com</a><br><br>Support data:<br>Version: Release 5.3.8.12 x64  (1/22/2021)<br>Service: No<br>License: XXX<br>Name: John V<br>Email: &lt;email&gt;@yahoo.com<br>Support: Basic<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Issue</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Clearly articulate the issue.  <strong class="text-strong">Playback from the mobile app sometimes has a black screen</strong> is NOT sufficient.<br><br>Is this true for all cameras?<br>Does playback work from the console?  UI3?  mobile app?<br>With UI3 or the app, does playback work from the LAN?  WAN?<br><br>What are the steps to reproduce the error.<br><br></div><strong class="text-strong">Additional information</strong><div style="margin-left:3em">Camera stats.  Status button -&gt; Cameras tab -&gt; Export<br>Settings on the camera.  Screenshot of camera encoding settings.<br>Camera settings.  Camera settings -&gt; General tab -&gt; Export.<br><strong class="text-strong"><a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=2080#Server%20Health" class="postlink">Server health</a></strong>: Confirm any and all errors in the logs were addressed and resolved prior to submitting a ticket.<br><br><br></div></div><a name="Remote testing">Remote testing</a><br>Similar to this ticket (see final resolution section), occasionally engineering needs to get involved in order to tweak the BI connector to get the camera to work.  If the issue is still not resolved, we will need remote access to the camera.<br><br>If asked, please send a WAN address for this camera for testing purposes with necessary ports, usually just 80 and 554 (RTSP) and 8999(ONVIF if available).  Don't forget a temp login as well.  If you put the camera on the internet we can take a look.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF80V_AQBqM" class="postlink">This video explains how to do so.</a>  To be clear, we need direct access to the camera, not the BI web interface. <br><br>Send your camera settings as well.  Camera settings -&gt; General tab -&gt; Export.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:54 pm</p><hr />
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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Introduction</strong></span><br><br>Reporting a problem will not lead to resolution.  This article is an example of a good ticket that led to a resolution.<br>A resolution could be a bug fix or a settings change that resolves the issue.  In this example, a settings change led to resolution.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Original ticket</strong></span><br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>I have a program crashing issue. Beginning on the 18th of this month, BI crashes when the ‘Night’ profile changes to ‘Day’ profile. Synced with sunrise. No other profile changes affect the program.<br><br>I marked those locations in the log with ‘*******’.<br><br>It started 4-5 days after an update on the 14th. I doubt that was the problem but I tried reverting to a previous version anyway and the problem is persisting.<br><br>I can only hope it is a known issue and you have an easy fix. As it is, I have to start the program as soon as I wake up every day.</div></blockquote><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Why is it a good ticket</strong></span><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Clear and concise explanation of issue</strong><br><br>User suspects Profile changes linked to the sunrise is causing the issue.<br>Furthermore, he is very specific based on his analysis.<br><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Supporting evidence</strong><br><br>This user does not just make blank claims.  <br>He also provides the supporting evidence, <strong class="text-strong">I marked those locations in the log with ‘*******’</strong>.<br>Again, this information was provided on the initial ticket.  No back and forth for more information.<br>If you do not know what information to provide, you may want to review the self-help content in the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2426" class="postlink">Checklist</a> first to understand how BI works and try to self-correct.<br><br>Highlights from his attached logs:<br><blockquote class="uncited"><div>// comments at top of log to guide support<br>crash issues began on the 18th. marked them with ***********.<br><br><br>0 8/19/2021 5:29:58.808 AMNew                 Move: 11 items 35.6M [988/2160 hrs, 40.0G/40.0G, 29.6G free]<br>3 8/19/2021 5:30:09.245 AMCam19               MOTION_A<br>3 8/19/2021 5:31:17.845 AMCam19               MOTION_A<br>0 8/19/2021 5:32:00.050 AMApp                 Current profile: day<br>************************* Crash<br>2 8/19/2021 7:31:50.012 AMApp                 Restarted after unexpected shutdown (5.4.9.18/1500/230)<br>0 8/19/2021 7:31:50.840 AMServer              Started on port 9005<br>0 8/19/2021 7:31:50.886 AMApp                 Shield: Green<br>108/19/2021 7:31:50.948 AMlocal_console       ::: Login<br><br><br>4 8/19/2021 7:31:56.918 AMClips               F:: 9924, 242.7G/3.41T (+225.6G)<br>0 8/19/2021 7:32:00.962 AMAction              Email: Skip &lt;<a href="mailto:skiponpost@gmail.com">skiponpost@gmail.com</a>&gt; with 0 attachment/s<br>0 8/19/2021 7:36:57.109 AMNew                 Move: nothing to do [982/2160 hrs, 39.9G/40.0G, 29.7G free]<br>108/19/2021 7:49:27.970 AMlocal_console       ::: Logout, 17:37<br>*********************** Tried reverting to previous version to fix crash problem<br>0 8/19/2021 7:49:27.972 AMApp                 Stopped<br>0 8/19/2021 7:49:33.560 AMApp                 Started version 5.4.7.11<br>0 8/19/2021 7:49:33.560 AMApp                 Updated from version 5.4.9.18<br>0 8/19/2021 7:49:35.459 AMServer              Started on port 9005<br>0 8/19/2021 7:49:35.500 AMApp                 Shield: Green<br>108/19/2021 7:49:35.535 AMlocal_console       ::: Login<br><br><br>4 8/21/2021 4:55:57.905 AMCam19               Signal: restored<br>3 8/21/2021 5:06:01.888 AMCam10               MOTION<br>3 8/21/2021 5:27:29.470 AMCam15               MOTION<br>0 8/21/2021 5:35:00.391 AMApp                 Current profile: day<br>************************** Program crash<br>2 8/21/2021 7:47:15.334 AMApp                 Restarted after unexpected shutdown (5.4.7.11/1500/240)<br>0 8/21/2021 7:47:15.873 AMServer              Started on port 9005<br>0 8/21/2021 7:47:15.923 AMApp                 Shield: Green<br>108/21/2021 7:47:15.992 AMlocal_console       ::: Login</div></blockquote>The attached log file had 8969 lines.  I would have preferred he just copy/pasted the above into the ticket to make it easier on me.  But perhaps it was also good he sent the entire log.  I was able to identify other issues that were worth fixing.<br><br>Either way, his analysis led to a level credibility.  It was clear that he was not just a user making empty claims.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Final resolution</strong></span><br><br>Turned out Profile changes were not causing crashes, it was just a red herring.<br>We resolved other errors in the logs that improved stability.  See <strong class="text-strong">Routine Maintenance</strong> section of <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2080" class="postlink">Windows Tuning article</a>.<br>We also switched BI to run as a service so the software would automatically restart.<br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong">Conclusion</strong></span><br><br>Identifying the root cause for a crash can be challenging.<br>The <a href="viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2080" class="postlink">Windows Tuning article</a> is where you start.<br>The goal is<ol style="list-style-type:decimal"><li>Identifying root cause by isolating features/functionality.  <br>Support can then simulate/reproduce the same conditions on their servers to recreate the crash and identify the issue.</li><li>Or be able to identify the steps to reproduce the crash.</li></ol><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:41 pm</p><hr />
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