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<span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Introduction</span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br>This article documents UI details, mostly driven from tickets.<br><br><strong class="text-strong">Webinar</strong><br>The <a href="https://youtu.be/HX0o29_JD_8" class="postlink">Web Interface webinar</a> provides a great overview of the functionality and calls out many important tips and tricks.<br><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%"><a name="Networking">Networking</a></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><span style="font-size:125%;line-height:116%"><a name="Login">Login</a></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: Using DDNS instead of port forwarding.  Accessing the UI3 interface from the LAN using the DDNS URL is very slow.</strong><br><br>We are not networking experts so users on the forum may have a better answer.  <br>One possibility is the firewall settings are not set correctly.<br>Another possibility is usually when you use a DDNS url from within the same LAN, the traffic gets proxied through the router using a function called "NAT loopback" or "hairpin NAT".  It could be that their router is bad at this.  One workaround is to try the BI server's LAN IP address instead of the DDNS url when on the same LAN.<br><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 2: Login is slow.  Live view fails to load or takes a minute to load.</strong><br><br>I recommend checking CPU and memory usage on both server and client while remote viewing.  Most computers these days are plenty good enough for UI3, but that isn't a guarantee.  And also make security software exceptions (see <a href="viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2080" class="postlink">Windows Tuning article</a>), as such software can interfere with the web server connections.  A poorly performing network could also cause such issues.<br><br>If CPU usage is high, consider unselecting "Require/decode all camera frames when streaming".<br>Gear icon in top right of Console.<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1928" class="postimage" alt="ui3 gotcha_group stream.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 3: Ad-blockers</strong><br><a href="viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;t=2955#Gotcha%203" class="postlink">See ad-blocker gotcha</a>.<br><br><br></div><span style="font-size:125%;line-height:116%"><strong class="text-strong"><a name="Live view">Live view</a></strong></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: Orange Clock Warning</strong><br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1922" class="postimage" alt="ui3-gotcha_clock.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>If you get the orange clock warning, either the fps is low for the stream or the endpoint is overloaded because the resolution (i.e. bitrate) is too high.  <br>Run through the <a href="viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=2080" class="postlink">Windows Tuning article</a> just to make sure Windows is not in conflict with BI.<br>Readjust the stream using Gear icon (bottom right).<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1923" class="postimage" alt="ui3 gear icon.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>FYI, the UI3 gear settings are just presets values in the web server encoder settings<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1924" class="postimage" alt="ui3-vs-settings_optimized.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 2: Live view is choppy.</strong><br>Symptom:  Many frames are missing.  The time overlay skips several seconds.  The live view was delayed by several seconds.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2554" class="postimage" alt="ui3_fps.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>Fix:  Try increasing the fps for the group stream.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2037" class="postimage" alt="ui3-gotcha_group fps.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>If the load on the network gets too much, in the UI3 interface, click on gear icon on bottom right and choose a higher/lower resolution to ease network congestion (Gotcha 1 above).<br><br>Engineering warning<div style="margin-left:3em">This setting was at 10 at one time, but it used so much CPU, it caused a lot of tickets for that.  It should be increased judiciously. 15  would be even worse.<br><br>Perhaps now that dual-streaming is the norm, this will not be as much of an issue.<br><br></div></div><span style="font-size:125%;line-height:116%"><a name="Playback">Playback</a></span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: Playback is slow or choppy for recordings.  1 - 5 fps</strong><br><br>If the live view of the same camera is streaming just fine, then there is probably not an issue with CPU or network performance.  The main difference between live and clip playback is the involvement of the storage device on the BI server.  It may be having trouble seeking and reading an existing file if there is a lot of recording going on.<br><br>Some ideas:<br><br>1) Revisit <a href="viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=2716#Live%20view" class="postlink">Gotcha 1 above</a> in the Live view section.  Simplify the stream coming to BI using the gear icon. <br>2) Make sure playback in UI3 is set to 1x speed and not playing in reverse.<br>3) Try temporarily disabling recording on the BI server (set shield to red) to reduce disk load for testing purposes.<br>4) Make sure the recording format is BVR.  I've had bad playback issues with MP4 before.<br>5) If hardware acceleration is used, look for the "Also BVR" checkbox in Blue Iris console &gt; Camera Properties &gt; Video tab.  Toggle it on or off in case hardware acceleration is helping or hurting the playback somehow.<br><br>If still an issue, run through <a href="viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;t=2539#Remote%20device%20tests" class="postlink">Remote device tests</a> to rule out the server and network.<br><br><br><br></div></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">UI3 Settings</span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: I set the UI3 timeout to 0 (i.e. never time out), but the browser still logs me out.</strong><br><br>In General settings, users can set the UI3 idle timeout period.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1927" class="postimage" alt="ui3 timeout setting.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div>Users state this setting is not being honored and UI3 still logs out.  UI3 will let you know when a session disconnected because of a timeout.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1925" class="postimage" alt="ui3 time out message.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>If instead you received the login page, that means UI3 lost the session with BI which resulted in reloading the page which typically redirects to the login page.  <br><br>It could be caused by anything that causes temporary connectivity loss, such as the network going down for 1 minute or longer, or even Blue Iris crashing.  Or maybe even a session length limit applied to the Blue Iris user account.  Although I think the user would realize if they had set this on all their BI systems.  There certainly is not a session length limit by default.<br><br>The other possibility is the endpoint viewing UI3 is disconnecting.  For example, if the endpoint is a laptop, power saving settings may have put the laptop to sleep or disconnected the laptop from the network.<br><br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1926" class="postimage" alt="ui3 login.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 2:  Login credentials</strong><br><br>The login page does not remember user credentials.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1982" class="postimage" alt="UI3_login credentials.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>Like all other UI3 settings, the username, password, and "Log in automatically" checkbox state are saved in the browser's Local Storage.   Local Storage can be inspected for troubleshooting purposes in the browser's developer tools.  In Chrome, a person would open developer tools &gt; Application tab &gt; Storage &gt; Local Storage &gt; [address].  This will show all local storage items that exist for the selected web site.  Look for the keys "bi_username", "bi_password", and "bi_rememberMe".  <br><br>To make the saved credentials get lost, the browser may be clearing Local Storage regularly (such as when the tab is closed) due to security or privacy settings.  Or perhaps a browser extension is responsible.  Most browsers treat "Local Storage" the same as "Cookies" so most settings affecting Cookies would affect this as well.<br><br><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">Console view</span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: Reduce margins between camera windows.</strong><br>See <a href="viewtopic.php?f=13&amp;t=2628#Gotcha%207" class="postlink">Gotcha 7 in 5.5 Release notes</a>.<br><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 2: Missing cameras</strong><br><br>Below are settings that can prevent a camera from being visible on UI3.<ul><li>A camera could be marked as hidden (BI Camera Properties &gt; General), or its webcasting could be disabled (BI Camera Properties &gt; Webcast).</li><li>Or the user could be logged in to the web server using a limited account that does not have permission to view all cameras.</li><li>Or it could be that he just needs to use the Current Group dropdown in UI3 to select <strong class="text-strong">All cameras</strong>.</li></ul><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 3: Can I filter Alerts/Clips by camera like in the console?</strong><br><br>Yes.  Go to Clips tab -&gt; Select a camera.  Filter is automatically applied.<br><br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2484" class="postimage" alt="UI3_camera filter.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br></div><span style="font-size:150%;line-height:116%">BI Server Settings</span><div style="margin-left:3em"><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 2: Ad blockers</strong><br><a href="viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;t=2955#Gotcha%203" class="postlink">See Ad blockers gotcha</a>.<br><br><br><strong class="text-strong">Gotcha 1: User permissions</strong><br>Global settings -&gt; Users tab<br>User Permissions may be restricting access<br>Global settings -&gt; Users tab<br>The below settings restrict access to LAN and/or applies restrictions based on the schedule.<br>Help button in dialog has details.<br><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1981" class="postimage" alt="UI3_server permissions.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><br>The Global settings -&gt; Web server tab -&gt; Advanced button has other possible access restrictions.<br>Help button in dialog provides details.<br></div><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://blueirissoftware.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=521">varghesesa</a> — Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:32 am</p><hr />
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