Blue Iris

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-26T23:11:15+00:00

Blueiris caught hell over this snafu which also affected Quickbooks and other programs and was a result of a Microsoft issue. There is a link about the issue.
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/0 ... on-ensues/

Statistics: Posted by broachoski — Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-26T18:30:50+00:00

Yes, it appears to be working again normally now.

Statistics: Posted by TimG — Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:30 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-26T11:08:15+00:00

J'ai fermer BL ce jour puis rouvert normalement (sans le fichier .bat) et tout est OK a présent sans avoir fait aucune modification ?

Statistics: Posted by CASINOS007 — Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:08 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-26T06:54:19+00:00

Tried my usual link this morning - and BI launched as it should!

Statistics: Posted by JDG — Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:54 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T12:34:14+00:00

That is awesome to hear !! Thanks for posting your info.
I would give your post a thumbs-up but I don't know how to do it.

8:44 pm EST, just wanted to share a MAJOR UPDATE,

I did NOTHING to modify any settings, it's just working again !
WTF? Mine is too. SOMETHING has changed.

Batch file not needed, with regular UAC security. WEIRD!

Statistics: Posted by IPCamMan — Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:34 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T11:21:26+00:00

I've just checked the BI exes, yesterday the Thawte cert was showing as "Disallowed" today it has "This certificate has expired or is not yet valid."

This is why it has started to work as the status of the cert has changed, a previously valid cert that has since expired can be be used and will continue to be valid, hence the exes now working.

This status change of the cert is probably nothing to do with BI, probably pushed out by Thawte via Microsoft?

Statistics: Posted by IAmATeaf — Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:21 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T06:36:59+00:00

And everything working again on my end it seems so far... So the fix could be done without forcing customers to buy the latest version.
Feel bad for people who listened to the Official Advise from BI and spent more money when they really didn't have to.
Again proving BI simply wanted more customers money, despite having a "lifetime" license to begin with.

A massive thank you to all the individual customers posting here to assist with solutions rather than just throwing money at the problem.

In the mean time, I think its best we all start looking at alternative solutions. I have no doubt these types of "issues" will pop up again and again.

Statistics: Posted by Skoposane — Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:36 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T05:45:20+00:00

This is all very confusing.

BI version 5.7.9.1. I have all the latest Windows 10 updates. I've rebooted several times for various reasons. And BI works fine
I see no reason why there should be all these problem on some, but not all, systems.

Examining my BI Admin Certificate, it says it's valid from Oct 24 2022 7:00:00pm, to, October 25 2025 6:59:59pm.

Statistics: Posted by MikeBwca — Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:45 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T03:44:44+00:00

8:44 pm EST, just wanted to share a MAJOR UPDATE,
I just tried to start Blue Iris the regular way I had been doing for ages, and it is now magically working again !
I did NOTHING to modify any settings, it's just working again !

Well how about that. Just completely stopped BI (service, etc.) and restarted and lo and behold it is recording again and not showing that idiotic "warning".

Not sure what they did but credit where credit is due: It appears fixed for now.

Edit: Nevermind. BI is not properly recording anything, which means it is still hopelessly broken.

Statistics: Posted by riblet2000 — Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:44 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T02:01:44+00:00

8:44 pm EST, just wanted to share a MAJOR UPDATE,

I did NOTHING to modify any settings, it's just working again !

WTF? Mine is too. SOMETHING has changed.

Batch file not needed, with regular UAC security. WEIRD!

Statistics: Posted by Gnomatic — Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:01 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-25T00:45:54+00:00

8:44 pm EST, just wanted to share a MAJOR UPDATE,
I just tried to start Blue Iris the regular way I had been doing for ages, and it is now magically working again !
I did NOTHING to modify any settings, it's just working again !

Statistics: Posted by IPCamMan — Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:45 am

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-24T20:30:48+00:00

In the grand scheme of things $35 + vat/tax isn’t that bad a price to pay and to be fair to them BI did change the cert authority they were using to sign the app.

Not too sure I like their reply, being too busy to deal with a big issue isn’t exactly great CS.

Statistics: Posted by IAmATeaf — Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:30 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-24T19:28:31+00:00

Wow, thank you Seagull for that very detailed reply / tutorial on how to do this !

Happy to share a solution that works and doesn't mess with the security on the rest of the system.

I would also think it is worth trying to stop the conspiracy theory that BI caused this. IF they wanted to kill the app and force an upgrade, then there are better ways to do that.

I believe a Windows PC even with updates off still synchronises and updates the certificate store in some way. It needs to otherwise you'd loose web access to other items. Once that Thwaite certificate was marked as untrusted, then windows knew not to trust it.

I don't blame BI sales\support to attempt to use this as a sales opportunity. I gave them $70 four years ago for a quality product, and don't mind now giving them an extra $30 for all those years untroubled CCTV I have had from them. I won't upgrade all of my installs, some will be fine with this cert removal hack.

That small investment years ago has saved one of my clients many thousands in not loosing stock.

Statistics: Posted by Seagull — Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:28 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-24T18:56:42+00:00

I have the same issue. So I re-installed it now I only get evaluation copy message arcros all cameras plu it just crashesl

Statistics: Posted by jasonostrander — Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:56 pm

Re: Cannot start Blue Iris Program

2023-08-24T18:45:07+00:00

" Hello,

Apologies! Windows recently pushed out an update requiring all applications to have a current code signing certificate in order to run..."
Ye tell them this is BS, as I said in my previous post, I have BI running on a PC that didn't have windows update (completely disabled with gpedit) for more than a year and yet it was hit by this certificate issue.

I did tell them they are full of it, My PC also does not have any new updates from Windows and Blue Iris has always worked until the last couple days. I personally believe it is just Blue Iris's way to soak more money from customers, Not only do you need to pay a quite a bit for the software, Now we will need to keep paying for "support" or they simply pull the Certificate. or only allow the Certificate to be "good" for a year or so before these issues again arise, so I guess its time for all to find new Camera Software or use the "remove certificate" option, which works.

Statistics: Posted by roffoch — Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:45 pm