Blue Iris 5 installed on Windows 10 box. Just recently noticed the microphone icon in the systray. When hovered over it says "Blue Iris is using your microphone". I have three cameras, two bullet type cameras, one on each corner of house with no audio and one doorbell cam with audio. Listening to audio on the doorbell cam has always worked fine but two way communication never worked so I don't even have "Enable audio capture hardware" checked in settings in the audio section under microphone. For some reason though, now as soon as I load BI, the mike icon shows up in systray and unless I have the audio muted for my one cam with audio (doorbell cam) my microphone is picking up sound! If I speak sound comes from my speakers and the audio from the doorbell cam comes out my speakers (like it's supposed to) but then this sound from the speakers goes back into the mike, then speakers, then mike, etc. causing loop that gets louder and louder until I mute the camera! I've been running this same setup for a couple of years now with no issue till recently. The only options I have are to keep camera muted (which I actually do most of the time) but I like to listen to audio when I'm reviewing any recordings captured, disable the mike, or use the windows setting that doesn't allow any desktop apps to access the mike. The Windows setting would be ideal if it would allow you to specify allow/disallow for each app but it doesn't. Actually, it would be ideal if Blue Iris wasn't screwing up like this! Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

Dave

What does this dialog look like on your setup?

Here's that box from my setup:



Hope this works, don't know about the image setting, posted link to google drive share

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cbw_vJ ... sp=sharing

The link worked fine. FWIW, I use the add attachments tab at the bottom of the section where you compose your reply. Attach, then place inline. I hadn't registered that you already posted that the Audio Capture was not enabled in global settings. Sorry. Based on what you said, more detail would be helpful. I have some stupid questions to make sure I get what you're saying, so bear with me.

my microphone is picking up sound! If I speak sound comes from my speakers

What microphone is picking up sound?

unless I have the audio muted for my one cam with audio

There are several ways to mute audio, how are you doing it? What happens if you force the feedback loop to happen and try toggling on and off in three different ways: the console, the camera, and the microphone? Can you post a screenshot of the console during the feedback loop without anything muted?

To be clear, I'm no expert - I'm just noodling it out with you as if it were me having the problem, and how I would go about isolating variables.

YrbkMgr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:04 am The link worked fine. FWIW, I use the add attachments tab at the bottom of the section where you compose your reply. Attach, then place inline. I hadn't registered that you already posted that the Audio Capture was not enabled in global settings. Sorry. Based on what you said, more detail would be helpful. I have some stupid questions to make sure I get what you're saying, so bear with me.

my microphone is picking up sound! If I speak sound comes from my speakers

What microphone is picking up sound?

unless I have the audio muted for my one cam with audio

There are several ways to mute audio, how are you doing it? What happens if you force the feedback loop to happen and try toggling on and off in three different ways: the console, the camera, and the microphone? Can you post a screenshot of the console during the feedback loop without anything muted?

To be clear, I'm no expert - I'm just noodling it out with you as if it were me having the problem, and how I would go about isolating variables.

Okay thanks. I did discover something today. The problem isn't there when I'm viewing/listening to a recording from that camera, it's only there when I'm viewing/listening to the camera live. The "Blue Iris is using you microphone" icon in the systray is always there but doesn't seem to cause a problem whe just listening to recording, only with live stream.

To answer your questions, the microphone is the built-in mike on a USB logitech webcam, the only microphone I have hooked up at present. When viewing/listening to a recording the microphone is not picking up anything at all thus no issues, but when viewing/listening to live stream the mike not only picks up my voice but also any noise coming out of my speakers so that if a landscaper, for instance, is outside blowing leaves that sound goes back into mike and produces the feedback loop.

Okay, below is screenshot with the only mute options I know about circled in red. The one on the right is the only one that has any effect on the sound. Clicking it will mute the sound but as soon as I enable it again the feedback continues. The other two have no effect whatsoever. So, actually I didn't follow your instructions exactly, as you can see in the screenshot I do have it muted but as I said, that particular control is the only one that has any effect, unless there's another one I don't know about. And, if I have that control muted I can't hear any audio on live stream or recordings. So, the only way to listen to audio from livestream without the mike screwing everything up is to either disable the mike in device manager, turn it all the way down in settings, disallow desktop apps from using the mike in settings, or unhook the darn thing! Thanks for your input and any future advice!

Okay, I have the same usb camera and did some "guess and check". I had the same problem as you until I changed the webcam audio settings. When I chose IP Camera Stream instead of Direct Show Device, problem solved. No live feedback from the webcam, and BI is using your microphone went away. Live audio toggles on and off as expected. HOWEVER, you should have it muted and explicitly unmute it if you want to hear live audio from that cameras microphone..

Still noodling out why, but I did it a couple of times.

On the console, make sure volume is not muted (speaker icon, upper right) - as I understand it, that is the audio control for the BI console in it's entirety. Also fwiw, Play Live Audio in the context menu is the same as pressing the green speaker icon for the camera - toggles mute.

See if you can reproduce the results I got.

EDIT: The webcam, as a microphone, picks up your speakers AND the room, which is why you should have it muted in BI by default

YrbkMgr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:58 am Okay, I have the same usb camera and did some "guess and check". I had the same problem as you until I changed the webcam audio settings. When I chose IP Camera Stream instead of Direct Show Device, problem solved. No live feedback from the webcam, and BI is using your microphone went away. Live audio toggles on and off as expected. HOWEVER, you should have it muted and explicitly unmute it if you want to hear live audio from that cameras microphone..

Still noodling out why, but I did it a couple of times.

On the console, make sure volume is not muted (speaker icon, upper right) - as I understand it, that is the audio control for the BI console in it's entirety. Also fwiw, Play Live Audio in the context menu is the same as pressing the green speaker icon for the camera - toggles mute.

See if you can reproduce the results I got.

EDIT: The webcam, as a microphone, picks up your speakers AND the room, which is why you should have it muted in BI by default

LOL!!! Thank you sir! I totally forgot about the USB cam! I mean obviously I knew about the mike but wasn't thinking about the camera portion because I don't even use it! I did install it as a Blue Iris camera way back when I got it but disabled it and hid it rather than deleting it because I thought I might use it sometime, maybe to monitor my office when I'm not here, etc. Anyway, I didn't change any settings on it BUT it all makes total sense now! Something changed in Blue Iris a while back (an update I'm sure) so that even though that cam is disabled and hidden, and it doesn't show when I have all cameras up, when I cycle through the cams, it shows up as a blank screen. This never happened before, hidden and/or disabled cams show when cycling. That was bugging me (and still is, BTW) so I had been messing with it trying to fix that issue and even though it was still hidden, I had left it enabled! And I had audio enabled on it as well so, as you stated, it was picking up everything!! Many thanks!!!

So, now that you've fixed that problem, what do you know about keeping that cam from showing up on the cycle? Right now I have that cam disabled and hidden, and I have "hide disabled cameras" selected so that cam never shows up anywhere, except for when I cycle through the cams. It doesn't do it on auto-cycle (which I rarely use) but if I like to have "solo selected camera" set then cycle through by using the cursor movement keys. If I do this one of the stops is always a blank screen, for the disabled cam. Thanks again!!

Dave

SuperDave57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:50 pm So, now that you've fixed that problem, what do you know about keeping that cam from showing up on the cycle? Right now I have that cam disabled and hidden, and I have "hide disabled cameras" selected so that cam never shows up anywhere, except for when I cycle through the cams. It doesn't do it on auto-cycle (which I rarely use) but if I like to have "solo selected camera" set then cycle through by using the cursor movement keys. If I do this one of the stops is always a blank screen, for the disabled cam. Thanks again!!

Dave

In the spirit of Form Follows Function (Frank Lloyd Wright), why do you have the webcam added to BI in the first place? I just added mine (again) because I want to monitor the room when I'm gone for a long period and my dog is home - not that it does me any good. I view it as a special case use to have the webcam record or alert - kind of Nestcam-ish use. Having said that...

You can create a camera group for your main cameras and cycle the group instead of all of them. I've tried the "guess and check" method of using groups and don't get it - btw, that's why I used the Import REG feature - to fix my screw ups. But that's the method you would use, camera groups.

YrbkMgr wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:09 am

SuperDave57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:50 pm So, now that you've fixed that problem, what do you know about keeping that cam from showing up on the cycle? Right now I have that cam disabled and hidden, and I have "hide disabled cameras" selected so that cam never shows up anywhere, except for when I cycle through the cams. It doesn't do it on auto-cycle (which I rarely use) but if I like to have "solo selected camera" set then cycle through by using the cursor movement keys. If I do this one of the stops is always a blank screen, for the disabled cam. Thanks again!!

Dave

In the spirit of Form Follows Function (Frank Lloyd Wright), why do you have the webcam added to BI in the first place? I just added mine (again) because I want to monitor the room when I'm gone for a long period and my dog is home - not that it does me any good. I view it as a special case use to have the webcam record or alert - kind of Nestcam-ish use. Having said that...

You can create a camera group for your main cameras and cycle the group instead of all of them. I've tried the "guess and check" method of using groups and don't get it - btw, that's why I used the Import REG feature - to fix my screw ups. But that's the method you would use, camera groups.

Well, just like you said, I intended to use it if I ever wanted to monitor the room (my home office) when I'm not there. Of course, one can set it up in just a couple of minutes so I've already deleted it. Also, decided I would just grab one of the inexpensive indoor IP cams for that purpose if I need it. Thanks again for your help, happy holidays!

Right on, back atcha regarding the holidays.